1634 old tavern site

[lee]

oi oi chaps , so the day after me and angel hunted together i decided to go back over the green where we had detected armed with the knowledge the master had shared with me but before i even turned me detector on i was confronted by a bloke . fearing the worst i took my headphones off ready for a punch up but no !!! he asked me very kindly if i would like to detect his property that was the origanal site of the old tavern and that all he wanted out of the deal was to look at what i found , im like bloody hell yes but after chating about the hobby for a good 30mins it was getting dark so i decided to go back the next day.
when i arrived he showed me old foundations from 1634 , the origanal old fireplace that he had turned into a b-b-q pit , an old 1850 barn and 20 acars of farmed field .....i was in heaven !!!!.
i put my detector to the ground then looked up and who should i see across the road ? angel !!.
after telling him about the site we both began to detect the farm field. with only a few buttons to show for it after an hour angel decided he was gona go to another site just down the road so we shook hands and i began to hunt the garden.
after 20 mins i had 13 wheat pennys but then got a good high signal on the whites coinmaster at 4 inches . out pops the plug and there was a 1897 barber quarter , my very first ! i was over the moon and after falling in love with angels barber quarter from the day before i was so happy i yelled... YES!!!!.
the next day i hunted with larry at the same spot and my second signal was at 2 inches and showing up as another quarter , imagine my suprize when out pops this stunning 1798 large cent ...by this time im pinching me self and expecting the wife to wake me up with a nice cup-o-tea !!!!.
anyway after getting it home and giving it no more than a wash under a tap i see the date looks like an 8 punched over the top of a 9 :huh:thinkingabout:? or visa versa.
anyway here is a few pictures

http://i45.tinypic.com/20zdy0p.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/3486gzm.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/xt2r7.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/30js7jk.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/nq3hau.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/2d8s2hi.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/2gw6syx.jpg

and here is a nice buckle and a thingie :huh:from the same site and a silver pendent from a few weeks ago

http://i47.tinypic.com/za6pf.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/3fmuw.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/10gxtmx.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/t0pauh.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/15e9uyu.jpg

[coinhunter]

How did my cousin do Lee :huh:thinkingabout:?

[lee]

modern day penny and a dime for larry and some relics from a 50s car i think

[del]

hey Lee does it have a rotated reverse ( meaning the back is mis-aligned with the front ) just how you have it in the first two pictures??

Dan

[Merc]

Wow fantastic hunt!! :perfect10:

[lee]

yes del it does

[lee]

when i flip it straight over it miss alines and goes to the left del .
agghhhh... i dont know now.......its miss aligned slitly i would say but not as much as in the first picture.

[aloldstuff]

From an almost fisticuff to a dream site. WTG Lee, that LC looks great. Congrats on your 1st Barber quarter also.

[JTGOLD]

very nice find,wtg.

[Fire Fighter 43]

:wow: those are some great finds, WTG

[tanacat]

Very nice :clapping: I enjoyed your story :yes: Envious of you guys on the east coast, so rich w/history... that's a really old site!

[Lowjiber]

Great site and great hunt(s).

I love a thread with a story. You made my morning. |:cheering:

[EastCoast]

Congrats on these great finds Lee.......beautiful coins keep up the great work.
by the way would you consider trading dectectors :huh::huh:thinkingabout: :envious:

[angellionel]

Hey Lee! Those are some awesome finds you picked up from the yard. :smitten: I bet your eyes were bulging out after each find. lol I have to take a closer look at some of the buttons I picked up while we were detecting the farm field. Some do look to be very old. :yes: Congrats on some great finds!! :clapping:

[CODY]

Very nice finds, congrats! HH

[Rob L]

Congrats on the great finds. You have to visit that place again again again and again, there has to be plenty more stuff there.

[EastCoast]

http://i46.tinypic.com/2z86yhj.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/jrpsfk.jpg

[lee]

well as you can see i just went round larrys house to try and get some better pics of the coin and as larry said its like the blind leading the blind .
so heres a request , if anyone in connecticut can take some nice close up pics for me im willing to drive or you can come round my place and being a butcher by trade i will make sure 2lb of best english style bangers (sausage) comes your way and a nice steak .
the reason i need some good pictures of this coin is del thinks it maybe a rare repunched 1798/99 but he is not sure , if it is im taking the whole forum out for a drink !!!!
so please if anyone could help me out here i would realy be greatfull.

[del]

hey Lee that might not be necessary as those pictures might be the deciding factor , i'm just waiting for one more large cent specialist ( collector ) to look at it and give his thoughts .

the reason its been this long is because the coin definately shares the same reverse die as the 1799/8 variety . the only thing is there was an outbreak of yellow fever back then in late 1798 and most of 1799 so production was halted and when it resumed they were using many of th same dies on both coins (1798 and 1799) , so there is alot of confusion.
i should have confirmation later tonight .


Dan

[lee]

dan thank you so much for taking the time to help me.
all of us on this forum are lucky to have a man of your knowledge to help us , mate , thanks for being here.

[lee]

my coin is on the banner......thanks folks!!!!.......proud face :)

[del]

hey Lee , sorry for the late reply :embarrassed: , George and i were giving a metal detecting presentation to the Pequot museum and a new batch of students . we were gone all day :huh:

heres the concesus of your coin

This is a 1798 S-173 Die State VIII. A common variety but not a common die state. Interesting bit of trivia, the reverse die of this coin was used in striking the 1799/8 NC-1, but it was used before it was used for the S-173.

In this case they struck the 1799/8 NC-1, for some reason after a very brief coinage they stopped. Then the reverse was paired with a 1798 obv and the 1799/8 obv was paired with a different reverse. So yes the 1798 S-173 was struck in 1799. And since there were several other varieties of 1798's of similar style, several of these may have been struck in 1799 as well. Emission sequence shows 1799/8 NC-1, then 1798 S-173, then 1799/8 S-188 then 1798 S-186, then 1798 S-187, then maybe 1799 S-189. There may have been a few other 1798's struck in 1799 as well.

so your coin is a very oddly minted 1798 and still very collectable but not the coveted 1799 over 98 . :crying02: crying01

Dan

[lee]

thank you dan for your hard work on my behalf ....sigh.....so the E track will have to wait then yes ?.
how much would it be worth do you think dan ?

[del]

Lee , that is very subjective based on availability , condition and rarity of the coin . i think in its present condition , i would suspect maybe a few hundered dollars at best.

Dan

[Snapolson]

Lee, that's some amazing finds!! Congrats. I told you I'm a photojournalist. We'll get together. I'll do your photos mate! Lat me know.