1802 And 1803 Draped Bust Large Cent Spill

[angellionel]

Saturday I took a drive to a site I had worked back in early May (http://www.americandetectorist.com/forum/showthread.php?5395-Gnats-Silver-And-Copper). It had yielded several old silver coins and a copper then, but this time it only coughed up three Indian Head cents, one of them a fatty, and one who-knows-what copper. It doesn't count. \:hammer: The Indian Head cents are in poor shape too. They are included in the following photo, along with some of the miscellaneous finds I made today.

http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2011/July/miscfinds_073111.jpg


Today I decided to detect locally, hitting the site from where I had pulled some coppers recently. It paid off big time! :happydance01: I managed three coppers. On one of them I am still trying to make a date, but the other two are in fantastic shape for dug coppers. They are Draped Bust large cents, dated 1802 and 1803, both found in the same hole. :happydance01: I wish the four Draped Bust large cents spill I made back in mid-May (http://www.americandetectorist.com/forum/showthread.php?5554-Draped-Bust-Large-Cent-Spill-1803-Draped-Bust-Half-Cent) had been in similar shape. But then I would have ended up in the hospital while clutching my chest. lol

Here is the colonial copper, photos of it as found and after applying some coin conditioner.

http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2011/July/colonialcopper_obv_073111.jpg

http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2011/July/colonialcopper_rev_073111.jpg

http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2011/July/colonialcopper_cleaned_obv_073111.jpg

http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2011/July/colonialcopper_cleaned_rev_073111.jpg


And here are my two lovely ladies. :smitten: They are really in amazing shape. :drool:

http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2011/July/drapedbustcents_obv_073111.jpg


They did clean up well too. :loveit:

http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2011/July/1802_drapedbustcent_obv_073111.jpg

http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2011/July/1802_drapedbustcent_rev_073111.jpg

http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2011/July/1802_drapedbustcent_cleaned_obv_073111.jpg

http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2011/July/1802_drapedbustcent_cleaned_rev_073111.jpg

http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2011/July/1803_drapedbustcent_obv_073111.jpg

http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2011/July/1803_drapedbustcent_rev_073111.jpg

http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2011/July/1803_drapedbustcent_cleaned_obv_073111.jpg

http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2011/July/1803_drapedbustcent_cleaned_rev_073111.jpg

It was a better weekend than I had expected. :happydance01:

[MassDirtFisher]

UNREAL!!!!!!!!!! :peace:

Congrats on 2 stellar Copper Large Cents!!
What a day you had!!!

Hit that place hard Angel!! Happy Hunting!!! :perfect10: :perfect10: :perfect10: :perfect10: :perfect10: :perfect10:

[Beefcake]

Holy cow! I like how you are cleaning them up a bit nowadays... Those look great!!! What's with all the copper lately:huh: You finally clean out all the silver in New England? LOL

[coinnut]

Those are gorgeous Angel :shocked04: :shocked04: |:confused:) Congrats on some of the finest Draped Bust Cents I have seen come out of the ground in a long time. :clapping: The other one is a George II Half Penny and Dan could narrow down the age for you after looking at the portrait. Nice hunt and a nice job on cleaning them up :peace:

[angellionel]

Thanks guys! :beerbuddy:



UNREAL!!!!!!!!!! :peace:

Congrats on 2 stellar Copper Large Cents!!
What a day you had!!!

Hit that place hard Angel!! Happy Hunting!!! :perfect10: :perfect10: :perfect10: :perfect10: :perfect10: :perfect10:


I was on my knees in disbelief when I pulled the first one. I took a few photos and then checked the hole again before filling it. My heart skipped a beat when I heard another signal. lol I'm sure I did a few dances. rofl




Holy cow! I like how you are cleaning them up a bit nowadays... Those look great!!! What's with all the copper lately:huh: You finally clean out all the silver in New England? LOL


I know, those coppers just keep getting in the way of my finding silver. lol But I'm not complaining. :cheesysmile: lol




Those are gorgeous Angel :shocked04: :shocked04: |:confused:) Congrats on some of the finest Draped Bust Cents I have seen come out of the ground in a long time. :clapping: The other one is a George II Half Penny and Dan could narrow down the age for you after looking at the portrait. Nice hunt and a nice job on cleaning them up :peace:


Thanks George! thumbsup01 These will keep me happy for some time to come. lol And thanks for the id on the colonial coin! :happydance01: I knew either you or Dan would come through with an id. :peace:

[odave]

Wow Angel :perfect10: Those two Sisters look Great thumbsup01
Awesome finds and Spectacular condition !!

[tanacat]

They turned out beautiful Angel :clapping: amazing detail for 200+ year old coins! Esp the 1803- her hair...

Big time congrats :beerbuddy:

[angellionel]

Wow Angel :perfect10: Those two Sisters look Great thumbsup01
Awesome finds and Spectacular condition !!


Thanks Dave. :beerbuddy: I have to say, it sure was a thrill to see how well they held up. :yes:




They turned out beautiful Angel :clapping: amazing detail for 200+ year old coins! Esp the 1803- her hair...

Big time congrats :beerbuddy:


Yeah, the obverse of the 1803 is stunning. :smitten: It sure was nice to see such beautiful detail on both coins. :yes:

[Epi-hunter]

They are beautiful coins Angel :smitten:

They cleaned up beautifully too. You are the copper man this year lol

Nice work! I know that the location you found them is one of those hunted out ones. :)

[angellionel]

They are beautiful coins Angel :smitten:

They cleaned up beautifully too. You are the copper man this year lol

Nice work! I know that the location you found them is one of those hunted out ones. :)


It really is great to see old coppers come out of the ground having such great details. :smitten:

The site has definitely been pounded over the years, as John (midas) can attest to, but like any other site, not everything has been found. Thankfully. :happydance01: lol

[Cheap Thrills]

:omg: |:confused:) :perfect10: :clapping:

[jkress]

Oh man... the '03 is tack sharp. :smitten: And the '02 is very close too.

Care to tell about the signal these two gave you? Were they from an area filled with trash or
did they scream out dig us? Or somewhere in between?

Great job Angel. I still can't help but wonder if you have figure out a way to get back to 1960 with your E-Trac. lol :thinkingabout:

[angellionel]

Oh man... the '03 is tack sharp. :smitten: And the '02 is very close too.

Care to tell about the signal these two gave you? Were they from an area filled with trash or
did they scream out dig us? Or somewhere in between?

Great job Angel. I still can't help but wonder if you have figure out a way to get back to 1960 with your E-Trac. lol :thinkingabout:


It wasn't a 'dig me' signal on the initial passes. It was more of a slight crackle. :thinkingabout: There isn't much in the way of trash, as most of it has been dug up over the years, but the ground at the site is difficult, and the local EMI had my E-TRAC crackling a tad too, so deep signals can be missed if one is carelessly swinging away. :yes: But once I began to shorten my sweeps over the target I knew I had something good. :happydance01:

[fastfwd]

:shocked04: :shocked04: :shocked04: Amazing !! what a great bunch of history !! :peace: :peace:

[fsa46]

It really is great to see old coppers come out of the ground having such great details. :smitten:


I'll let you know how it feels as soon as I find one in good shape. LOL

Every time I talk myself out of buying an E-Trac you post a picture of these great finds....which is every day. Will you please quit confusing me. :hammer:

[aloldstuff]

Angel, what a hunt. Those two beauties are gorgeous. :perfect10:. Your finds are an inspiration to all of us that are floundering around out here. Keep diggin em, love reading your posts. Huge congrats

[CTDirtFisher]

Its not to often we pull multiple large cents from the same hole... but to pull out that look like that...

:omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg:

Angel... you are amazing !!

Paul

[Bell-Two]

Angel you are pulling out Large Cents coin spills like the rest of us pull memorial cents spills! :drool: Congratulations I love the old coppers just something about them that reeks of history!

[coinnut]

If you look at the dirty picture of the Geo II, you can still see 174 and I think the last digit my be an 8. So 174_ something lol Dan should be able to tell us if that profile version matches the estimated date.

[Tony Two-Cent]

Hmmm... I'm starting to wonder if maybe this Angel guy knows what he's doing. http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb174/dubbl-t/893scratchchin-thumb.gif

Mind blowing finds, just mind blowing!

[bob_e99]

I'm just speechless as always.

All I have is WOW!

:omg:

[RobW]

Those are the signals I need to learn..it's what seperates us amateurs from you professionals lol :yes:

Absolutly amazing finds Angel! :envious:

[JTGOLD]

one word says it all AWSOME thumbsup01

[angellionel]

Thanks guys! thumbsup01




:shocked04: :shocked04: :shocked04: Amazing !! what a great bunch of history !! :peace: :peace:


It is fascinating to think about who may have held the coins last, and how they may have been lost. :yes:




I'll let you know how it feels as soon as I find one in good shape. LOL

Every time I talk myself out of buying an E-Trac you post a picture of these great finds....which is every day. Will you please quit confusing me. :hammer:


lol lol

Sorry Frank. :cheesysmile: I'm trying to get her to lock on to silver instead. lol




Angel, what a hunt. Those two beauties are gorgeous. :perfect10:. Your finds are an inspiration to all of us that are floundering around out here. Keep diggin em, love reading your posts. Huge congrats


Thank you Al! :beerbuddy: They really are gorgeous. :smitten:




Its not to often we pull multiple large cents from the same hole... but to pull out that look like that...

:omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg:

Angel... you are amazing !!

Paul


I know! :shocked04: I have had a few like dreams, but to actually experience it is sweet. :drool:




Angel you are pulling out Large Cents coin spills like the rest of us pull memorial cents spills! :drool: Congratulations I love the old coppers just something about them that reeks of history!


They do scream 'history', don't they. :yes: Those surely were lovely designs they had on the early coppers. :smitten:




If you look at the dirty picture of the Geo II, you can still see 174 and I think the last digit my be an 8. So 174_ something lol Dan should be able to tell us if that profile version matches the estimated date.


I can just about make that out too. :happydance01: It's not in great condition, but at least much of the detail is discernible. :yes:




Hmmm... I'm starting to wonder if maybe this Angel guy knows what he's doing. http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb174/dubbl-t/893scratchchin-thumb.gif

Mind blowing finds, just mind blowing!


lol

I just swing along stumbling into things. Fortunately some of those things are old coins. lol




I'm just speechless as always.

All I have is WOW!

:omg:


You should have seen my face when I pulled the first one out of the hole. :shocked04: Not a pretty sight. lol




Those are the signals I need to learn..it's what seperates us amateurs from you professionals lol :yes:

Absolutly amazing finds Angel! :envious:


I'm thinking that you are underestimating yourself. :yes: Thanks Rob! :beerbuddy:




one word says it all AWSOME thumbsup01


Thank you JT! thumbsup01

[jus_beachy]

INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!!!!! :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:

What is more amazing is the museum quality cleaning you gave those coins. (Maybe restoration is a better word)

Do you mind if I ask the steps you performed in the cleaning process?? I like the Renaissance Wax as a final step-But dying to know what you did...

Congratulations!! :perfect10: :perfect10:

[del]

wow :omg: Angel , Shame on you \:hammer: \:hammer: ... picking up two beautiful women like that at one time . :eyebrow: who else feels very inadequate , raise your hand
http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr228/del1786/gifs/raiseyourhand.jpg
lol lol
Great couple of early large coppers Angel , they don't get to much better . huge congrats |:confused:) |:confused:) :clapping:



If you look at the dirty picture of the Geo II, you can still see 174 and I think the last digit my be an 8. So 174_ something lol Dan should be able to tell us if that profile version matches the estimated date.


yes i was going to chime in and tell you it looked like a middle age head type George II as Coinnut pointed out the date .

[angellionel]

INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!!!!! :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:

What is more amazing is the museum quality cleaning you gave those coins. (Maybe restoration is a better word)

Do you mind if I ask the steps you performed in the cleaning process?? I like the Renaissance Wax as a final step-But dying to know what you did...

Congratulations!! :perfect10: :perfect10:


Thank you for the compliment. :yes: The fact that the coppers had a slight amount of soil on them, as well as limited corrosion, did help. :embarrassed: Caked-on soil would have given me fits. lol

I did not use any water at all. Given the slight amount of soil on them I cleaned them by using a coin conditioner, applying the liquid with cotton swabs (Q-Tip) to remove most of the dirt. It took several applications, gently swabbing the coin from different directions, especially targeting areas where the soil was embedded. After that I allowed the coins to dry. After drying I applied more coin conditioner, followed by a another drying period, until I was satisfied with the results. The conditioner does add a protective coating to the coin. Once it is completely dry, off to a 2X2 the coin goes. :yes:




wow :omg: Angel , Shame on you \:hammer: \:hammer: ... picking up two beautiful women like that at one time . :eyebrow: who else feels very inadequate , raise your hand
http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr228/del1786/gifs/raiseyourhand.jpg
lol lol
Great couple of early large coppers Angel , they don't get to much better . huge congrats |:confused:) |:confused:) :clapping:

yes i was going to chime in and tell you it looked like a middle age head type George II as Coinnut pointed out the date .


lol lol

They are hard to resist Dan. :smitten: lol

Thanks for the confirmation on the KG copper. :peace:

[jus_beachy]

Thank you for the compliment. The fact that the coppers had a slight amount of soil on them, as well as limited corrosion, did help. Caked-on soil would have given me fits.

I did not use any water at all. Given the slight amount of soil on them I cleaned them by using a coin conditioner, applying the liquid with cotton swabs (Q-Tip) to remove most of the dirt. It took several applications, gently swabbing the coin from different directions, especially targeting areas where the soil was embedded. After that I allowed the coins to dry. After drying I applied more coin conditioner, followed by a another drying period, until I was satisfied with the results. The conditioner does add a protective coating to the coin. Once it is completely dry, off to a 2X2 the coin goes.

Thanks for the fast reply! Good to know as I have a coins I can try that on.
Hope you score some more ladies like that!

[Mudder]

They are both beautiful ladies! :smitten: You are a very lucky man.

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

wow some sweet Draped ladies right there! gorgeous!

[DirtFisher]

Oh wow, you did great! Those two ladies are gorgeous! Congrats! :clapping:

[lee]

oh come on !!!!!!! really :huh:thinkingabout: ya mean ive got to find another 2 now ? and just when i thought i might be catching you up on the large cents ha ha ha (not likely)
mate, fanbloodytastic !!!! those two are stunners
did ya find anything else today ? i did some night detecting at the same place and squeaked out a wheat and my very first rosie silver, a 1946.
give me a shout if ya fancy going out again soon.

[angellionel]

oh come on !!!!!!! really :huh:thinkingabout: ya mean ive got to find another 2 now ? and just when i thought i might be catching you up on the large cents ha ha ha (not likely)
mate, fanbloodytastic !!!! those two are stunners
did ya find anything else today ? i did some night detecting at the same place and squeaked out a wheat and my very first rosie silver, a 1946.
give me a shout if ya fancy going out again soon.


lol lol

These were from last year, Lee. :yes: It would be sweet to find a few more in the condition these came out.