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angellionel
07-28-2011, 09:09 PM
There is nothing like a couple of hours of detecting to help one relax - except when finding coins that make your heart thump wildly. lol It was a late in the day hunt at a local site, and it proved to be more fun than I had anticipated. :happydance01:
This was my first find, a Connecticut Copper. It appears to be dated 1787. :thinkingabout: The first photo is as found, and the other two after applying coin conditioner to remove the surface soil. It is copper number 39 of the year.
http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2011/July/connecticutcopper_072811.jpg
http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2011/July/connecticutcopper_obverse_072811.jpg
http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2011/July/connecticutcopper_reverse_072811.jpg
The 1899 Barber dime was my next good find.
http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2011/July/1899_barberdime_072811.jpg
After a while I picked up another copper, though this one is worn. It is larger than the Connecticut Copper. I can't quite make out the year. It is copper number 40.
http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2011/July/largecopper_072811.jpg
http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2011/July/largecopper_obverse_072811.jpg
http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2011/July/largecopper_reverse_072811.jpg
Here are my finds, which includes a 1890 Indian Head cent and a small pin.
http://www.angellionel.com/myfinds/2011/July/oldcoins_072811.jpg
jkress
07-28-2011, 09:30 PM
You pulled some very nice coins today Angel. Love the Barber but my favorite here is the 1787 copper. :smitten:
Congrats on a fun hunt.
There is nothing like a couple of hours of detecting to help one relax
Yes... the world disappears when I hear the threshold tone. :daydream:
dave in iowa
07-28-2011, 09:42 PM
great find angel
Mudder
07-28-2011, 09:49 PM
Angel, you are a lucky devil >8) I could hunt all day and only come up with a handful of tabs and clad. Great coins and a perfect copper. Congrats.
Ill Digger
07-28-2011, 10:06 PM
There is nothing like a couple of hours of detecting to help one relax ...
Now thats my kinda relaxin' !
:thinkingabout: With all that excitement I don't know if it could actually be called relaxing lol
Thats some quality finds there Angel!
I dream of the day I finda coin starting with 17 :daydream:
Awesome finds !!
Congrats :grin:
MassDirtFisher
07-28-2011, 10:43 PM
Way to go Angel!! Sweet digging!! Congrats on a AWESOME hunt!! Happy Hunting!!
li tom
07-28-2011, 10:50 PM
Wow,what great parks you have to hunt!What conditioner do you clean the coins with?
jkress
07-28-2011, 11:06 PM
I dream of the day I finda coin starting with 17 :daydream:
I dare not dream of such a thing yet. lol :yes:
milco
07-28-2011, 11:10 PM
Ok, back to reality, don't think there are going to be any 17... anything for us in the Midwest! Nice finds and the adrenaline rush of finding a nice old coin is always relaxing in a way! Great finds!
angellionel
07-28-2011, 11:13 PM
Thanks everyone!
You pulled some very nice coins today Angel. Love the Barber but my favorite here is the 1787 copper. :smitten:
Congrats on a fun hunt.
Yes... the world disappears when I hear the threshold tone. :daydream:
I especially like it when the threshold is disturbed by a deep-sounding target. lol
Angel, you are a lucky devil >8) I could hunt all day and only come up with a handful of tabs and clad. Great coins and a perfect copper. Congrats.
Thanks Mudder. :beerbuddy: I like the :angelic: better though. lol
Now thats my kinda relaxin' !
:thinkingabout: With all that excitement I don't know if it could actually be called relaxing lol
Thats some quality finds there Angel!
I dream of the day I finda coin starting with 17 :daydream:
Awesome finds !!
Congrats :grin:
It's relaxing until you hit that first good signal. lol Thanks, Tim. thumbsup01
Way to go Angel!! Sweet digging!! Congrats on a AWESOME hunt!! Happy Hunting!!
Thanks MDF! thumbsup01
Wow,what great parks you have to hunt!What conditioner do you clean the coins with?
I used to use Blue Ribbon Coin Conditioner, but apparently it is no longer in production. I now use Coin Care. It is less costly, but it does appear to darken the coppers a bit. Still, it does a great job in removing much of the surface soil. :yes:
Cheap Thrills
07-28-2011, 11:24 PM
Wow Angel when you find old stuff you don't mess around :omg: Nice going once again . thumbsup01
fsa46
07-29-2011, 05:48 AM
Yet another great find. WTG :clapping:
Dam Angel, the way you're finding all these great coins your next investment will have to be a backhoe. You know, to save the back.... :stretcher:
Tony Two-Cent
07-29-2011, 05:53 AM
What a wonderful variety of finds! I can't imagine finding 39 coppers in a year, and the hunting season's only half over! Wow! Any idea what the larger copper might be?
Does that Coin Care stuff work on Indian Heads as well?
Great finds as always, Angel!
aloldstuff
07-29-2011, 06:53 AM
Angel, 40 coppers so far is fantastic. and I use the word fantastic because I only have 2. Congrats on another great hunt. Speak to me about that coin conditioner stuff.
40 coppers and he never goes near a Cellar Hole....... lol......George, Dan...you paying attention...well maybe not George.
Great finds............as always |:confused:)
angellionel
07-29-2011, 08:11 AM
Wow Angel when you find old stuff you don't mess around :omg: Nice going once again . thumbsup01
Thank you Sheik! :beerbuddy:
Yet another great find. WTG :clapping:
Dam Angel, the way you're finding all these great coins your next investment will have to be a backhoe. You know, to save the back.... :stretcher:
lol
I do need a new digger. lol The soft handle is torn, so the steel end is exposed. It is wrecking havoc on my palm. :blackeye: And yet I can't stop digging. lol
What a wonderful variety of finds! I can't imagine finding 39 coppers in a year, and the hunting season's only half over! Wow! Any idea what the larger copper might be?
Does that Coin Care stuff work on Indian Heads as well?
Great finds as always, Angel!
I am curious about the larger copper too. :thinkingabout: I am now better able to make out a few of the details, so hopefully I will be able to make some comparisons with online images. :yes:
The Coin Care conditioner does a very good job of removing light surface soil from Indian Head cents. Caked-on soil can be a problem though. :yes:
Angel, 40 coppers so far is fantastic. and I use the word fantastic because I only have 2. Congrats on another great hunt. Speak to me about that coin conditioner stuff.
I use the coin conditioner on lightly soiled coppers. It does a nice job in removing the soil and adds a protective coat. I apply the liquid with cotton swabs (Q-tip), until most or all of the soil is removed. I much prefer the Blue Ribbon Coin Conditioner though, as it does not have a tendency to darken the coppers. Unfortunately, it appears that it is no longer available. Blue Ribbon is what I had used on a 1786 Connecticut Copper I found a few years ago. That one has a nice brownish tint now. :yes:
40 coppers and he never goes near a Cellar Hole....... lol......George, Dan...you paying attention...well maybe not George.
Great finds............as always |:confused:)
I have just been fortunate with a few sites, that's all. :yes: Unfortunately the majority of the coppers found at parks do not hold up as well as those found at cellar holes. :crying02: I'm sure glad the above Connecticut Copper did though. :happydance01:
JTGOLD
07-29-2011, 08:49 AM
awsome finds,wtg.
coinnut
07-29-2011, 02:13 PM
Stop finding coppers Angel lol I've been trying to find out what they are and have some limited success. :shocked01: Nice 1787 Connecticut by the way lol The closest variety I can find for it is Breen's 789. The reverse lines up nicely for that variety but the obverse is not quite close enough for a match. It may be a muled die where the obverse does not match the known reverse for that type. Yours is also struck off center shifting down towards 5 o'clock, so some details are lost or nearly lost on it. A dealer specializing in CT coppers may be your best bet. It could be an unknown muling of dies :happydance01: The other copper may be a William III copper shown here
http://www.fromoldbooks.org/Aubrey-HistoryOfEngland-Vol3/pages/vol3-400-Halfpenny-William-III/
Just a starting point for you on them coppers. A great hunt indeed lol :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:
angellionel
07-29-2011, 02:25 PM
Stop finding coppers Angel lol I've been trying to find out what they are and have some limited success. :shocked01: Nice 1787 Connecticut by the way lol The closest variety I can find for it is Breen's 789. The reverse lines up nicely for that variety but the obverse is not quite close enough for a match. It may be a muled die where the obverse does not match the known reverse for that type. Yours is also struck off center shifting down towards 5 o'clock, so some details are lost or nearly lost on it. A dealer specializing in CT coppers may be your best bet. It could be an unknown muling of dies :happydance01: The other copper may be a William III copper shown here
http://www.fromoldbooks.org/Aubrey-HistoryOfEngland-Vol3/pages/vol3-400-Halfpenny-William-III/
Just a starting point for you on them coppers. A great hunt indeed lol :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:
rofl rofl I will have a talk with my E-TRAC about switching to finding silver instead of coppers. lol She is a stubborn one though. :cheesysmile: lol
And that large copper is dated 1699?!? :shocked04: Are you trying to give me a stroke. lol The details I see on the copper do match up nicely with the one in the link you provided. :drool: Thanks! :happydance01: :happydance01:
The Connecticut Copper did hold up well, having nice details. Thank you for that information on it as well. thumbsup01 It helps a lot. :yes:
mike l
07-29-2011, 04:59 PM
Nice finds Angel. The other copper may be a Draped Bust, the 00 with the line over it could be part of the 1/100 on the reverse :thinkingabout:
http://www.wikicoins.com/Draped_Bust_Large_Cent
angellionel
07-29-2011, 08:51 PM
Nice finds Angel. The other copper may be a Draped Bust, the 00 with the line over it could be part of the 1/100 on the reverse :thinkingabout:
http://www.wikicoins.com/Draped_Bust_Large_Cent
Good eye Mike. thumbsup01 That would be my initial reaction. Those '00's are actually worn 9's though. A Draped would have been nice too of course. :smitten: The obverse too has a visible S on the lower right-hand side, so that excludes a Draped Bust cent. :yes:
Tony Two-Cent
07-29-2011, 09:10 PM
Great Britain 1699 King William III Half Penny?
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb174/dubbl-t/Metal%20Detecting/1699-copper-obverse.jpg
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb174/dubbl-t/Metal%20Detecting/1699-copper-reverse.jpg
angellionel
07-29-2011, 09:23 PM
Great Britain 1699 King William III Half Penny?
Thank you, Tony! :clapping: Great photo to compare. :smitten: That's what George concluded as well. :yes: That's my oldest copper. :shocked04:stretcher:
great copper Angel :perfect10: yours i'm pretty convinced is a Miller 9-D. by the distinctful reverse that it has (only two obverse varieties go with this one) making it pretty easy to narrow down. a pretty scarce type that they give a rarity grade or a URS-7 which equals out to only 33 to 64 good examples are known to exist. :smitten: :smitten: huge congrats
Great Britain 1699 King William III Half Penny?
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb174/dubbl-t/Metal%20Detecting/1699-copper-obverse.jpg
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb174/dubbl-t/Metal%20Detecting/1699-copper-reverse.jpg
great id on the other copper Tony that was my next challenge but you saved me a little time :cheering: :cheering:
angellionel
07-29-2011, 09:59 PM
great copper Angel :perfect10: yours i'm pretty convinced is a Miller 9-D. by the distinctful reverse that it has (only two obverse varieties go with this one) making it pretty easy to narrow down. a pretty scarce type that they give a rarity grade or a URS-7 which equals out to only 33 to 64 good examples are known to exist. :smitten: :smitten: huge congrats
Excellent! Wow! She will make a great companion to my 1786 Connecticut copper. :smitten:. Thanks Dan! :happydance01:
BHDetector
07-29-2011, 10:15 PM
Beautiful finds Angel! One of these days Im going to have to make a trip out to the east coast and visit my sister to have a chance at something that old. thumbsup01
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