1785 Nova Constellatio Copper

CTDirtFisher

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Hello all!

I got out friday night and nabbed that KG II (Young George might be 1737)... and headed back to this site this am...

This site has been great for me... US Half Cent, Draped Bust LC, 1926 Matron Head US Large Cent, 6 Indians, 1902 Barber, 1950 Roosie, and a fist full of wheat backs...

So this am I was back just after the dew was drying up...

I got a few wheat back's early... Then is was fast back to back Merc's 1935 and 1937...

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I had 3 wheat pennies and 2 merc's and was about to call it to head back for NFL kick off @ 1pm... I move over to near where I recoverd the 1864 Indian Head on friday night... and got a blip of a 12/42 signal burried on the 12 depth meter...

The red handle of the Lesche was under the edge of the hole... So that is 12+ inches... 14 inches ??

Anywho... Here it is...

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The reverse... No so good... but look like Large US and Pointed Rays...

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The Totals:

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HH ALL!
Paul
 
From the land of the Bluenose.....congrats on the silver but have to say me son that copper is a Jim Dandy...have never seen one before and thanks a ton for posting and letting us bouys have a gander! Congrats!
 
Welcome to the Nova club :beerbuddy: She's a beauty :clapping: They don't come around very often and finding a good one is even harder. Sweet find. That area sure is kind to coppers.
 
those coppers are seldom seen Paul huge congrats on finding one :peace: :clapping: :peace: yours to me looks like a Crosby 5-e variety , great find my friend and congrats again
 
Thank you EVERYONE for all you compliments and kind words :-)

The community is a lot of the fun of this hobby... Easy to feel the connection with others that share in this passion...

./humble bow

Paul
 
Yes very lucky find!! What grade would you give it? G-4 or VG-:eyebrow: Del does your book say how many were made? I imagine many were melted down or lost or most remained in England. The picture looks alot better at Find's treasures forum. Nice patina ,good eye appeal from a distance. I would definitely put that one in a Air-Tite holder. Way To go, you always amaze me with your finds! :)

Remember It's history that mattters also and a heck of a show piece.
 
What grade would you give it? G-4 or VG-:eyebrow:

Grading on colonial coins is different Sal. That one without corrosion may be XF or higher. There are always weak strikes on one or parts of coins that you would surely think would give it a good or very good grade, only to find it marked VF :shocked04: They don't subtract for a weak strike. That is why they grade them higher than you would think they should be. But there is always eye appeal that separates the weak struck from the well struck coins. But one factor that hurts all coins is corrosion, colonials are not excluded! You could drop 2 grades or more for that one, but I wouldn't be surprised if it settled somewhere around a net grading of Very Good or Fine

Del does your book say how many were made? I imagine many were melted down or lost or most remained in England.

I don't know what book Del has but in mine it states that the most reasonable high estimate is that 1.4 to 1.6 million were struck :shocked04: They were accepted readily and were worn down, as the lack of small coinage was everywhere. Many did not survive and most are in the VG to VF condition. Higher grades are very rare! It sounds like a common coin, because of the estimated mintages, but it is not common. Rarely do you see anyone find them. There are some areas that they traveled more in and Del and I each found one. But it took decades before we did lol A great coin :clapping: And for the record, it's actually a Constellatio Nova and not a Nova Constellatio :rolleyes: I always call it a Nova Constellatio, since I don't read Latin lol
 

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