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aloldstuff
10-27-2014, 12:54 PM
Got out this afternoon for a short 2 hour hunt. Decided to go to a spot which in the past has produced, LC's, seated, Barber, IH

First keeper would be the 1941 wheat. A little while later I got what I think might be a watch winder.

I really hate to say this BUT "on the way back to the car" I get this 7 -8 inch signal with a VDI bouncing between 78 and 83. Dig down and I pull the copper out of the hole. I think that there is a bust facing right but that would be all I could see. I fear that it might be another New England disc. :lol:Any help appreciated.

Thanks for reading and HH

MangoAve
10-27-2014, 01:08 PM
Haha. Trying to thow a curve ball here? I knew something was up when both the disc and the wheat are about the same size. Now I know what you mean by NE disc... it's toasty. I just cannot tell you the date. But from pic #3 that little tiny divit on the center and kinda looking like a lady in a dress almost made it look like it could be a CT. It looks to me like it says "1262" somewhere in the middle of the toasted back but that's just a figment. That must be the word "America". Lincoln was facing right. Good you are getting out.

aloldstuff
10-27-2014, 02:52 PM
It's bigger than the wheat and is very thin. Looking in the Red book it's the same size as the Hibernia farthing.

del
10-27-2014, 03:12 PM
Al looks like you found a 1600's era French Liard

aloldstuff
10-27-2014, 03:24 PM
WOW. Dan thanks for the ID but are you sure. Now don't get me wrong I would love to break into the 1600's club.

What gave the ID away?

Tony Two-Cent
10-27-2014, 03:26 PM
Al looks like you found a 1600's era French Liard

Good call, Dan! After doing a Google image search I'd say you are correct! :yes:

You can clearly see the crown on the bust on the obverse of Al's coin, and part of the "ROY.FR.DE.ET.DE" lettering.

aloldstuff
10-27-2014, 03:32 PM
Now I'm really happy, can't begin to express my thanks for the ID. Always wanted to find a 1600's coin just never thought I would.

:happy::yahoo::bananadance:

del
10-27-2014, 03:37 PM
Al was this in your "field" you've been doing well in ??

OxShoeDrew
10-27-2014, 03:43 PM
Dan has a great eye! I found one this summer and still wouldn't have put it together unless Dan said it. Absolutely correct, you can see the crown. If I recall the crown makes it mid 1600s Magnificent find!

aloldstuff
10-27-2014, 03:45 PM
No....this was in another area that Rob and Tim and I have hit numerous times. Part of an old farm in Westfield.
Actually only a couple blocks from my house, am planning on hitting that other field tomorrow.

del
10-27-2014, 03:49 PM
Al , if your pulling coins this old , well there could be a pine or oak tree schilling there too.

aloldstuff
10-27-2014, 03:55 PM
Sorry it took so long to reply, I had to empty my drool bucket........

MangoAve
10-27-2014, 04:40 PM
It's hard to make out what's supposed to be on the back as there were a few types of liard coins. From the front if the crown has the crosses or fleur-de-lis and words above the bust (and around the rim) then it's literally mid 1600s. Between 1655 and 1657.

Fire Fighter 43
10-27-2014, 06:09 PM
Congrats on an oldie, WTG.

Lodge Scent
10-27-2014, 06:51 PM
A big :congrats: on a nice find!

Cheap Thrills
10-27-2014, 09:40 PM
Congrats on a totally mind blowing find . I hope that spot gives you many more great finds .:congrats:

Isaac
10-28-2014, 05:55 AM
Wow!! Now a 1600s coin is a feat!!!! What a find! :cheering:

RobW
10-28-2014, 07:52 AM
:envious:....Very nice Al...thanks for sending me the text to rub it in. Some of us HAVE to work still!
Great find and congrats!!!!!:thumbsup01:

aloldstuff
10-28-2014, 11:12 AM
:envious:....Very nice Al...thanks for sending me the text to rub it in. Some of us HAVE to work still!
Great find and congrats!!!!!:thumbsup01:

Thanks for congrats and of course I had to rub it in.....:hystericallaugh:

We all have to work.....it just depends on what you do with your time off:eyebrow:

Nesdore
10-28-2014, 01:12 PM
Sorry it took so long to reply, I had to empty my drool bucket........
:rofl: Al thats to funny but I think my drool bucket would have to be a big one after finding something like that a HUGE Congrats to you sir hope there is some more oldies there good luck :crossfingers:

RIdirtdigger
10-28-2014, 02:01 PM
Awesome coin! Welcome to the 1600's club. That's a very old copper surprised it held up enough for an id. Congrats :congrats:

zrickkid
10-28-2014, 03:41 PM
Man you guys are good at coin identification. Hope to find one one day that can stump the experts. All kidding aside nice find. id love to break into the 17th century like that one day!

The Rebel
10-31-2014, 11:07 AM
Welcome to the 1600's Club! Still haven't found any French coins yet.

Nice ID Dan!

aloldstuff
10-31-2014, 04:47 PM
Thanks for all the positive responses. Funny though, the 1st question I get from people at work is "How much is that worth"

Beartoe
10-31-2014, 05:17 PM
A most excellent find Al. It is amazing what you can find while heading back to the car.

I would be happy to break into the 1700s. Can not imagine how exciting a 1600s coin would feel like.

:thumbsup01::congrats: :thumbsup01: