Cellar hunt with DEL

[coinnut]

Dan and I got out for a hunt today expecting to get rained on, but it was fairly warm with just a hint of rain. Dan picked out the site and he did OK:lol: He can pick out the site anytime he wants to :thumbsup01: I didn't get much as far as quantity... 3 buttons, a .66 cal musket ball and an old chape. Also one big piece of iron. But the find of the day for me was completely out of place. These things just keep following me around :cheesysmile: Makes my 5th native American brass point. It may be a Narragansett point. It made my day and a good way to end the year.

[coop]

Sweet point!!!!!!

[Digger Don]

Nice finds. The musket ball is cool

[Lodge Scent]

Very cool! I would love to find a contact period projectile point !!

[milco]

Looks like an amazing point! What era/age is that from?

[coinnut]

Looks like an amazing point! What era/age is that from?

It probably ranges from about 1630's-1670's. After King Philips War it's a quick decline. Not many points being made after that, plus the musket makes points obsolete.

[del]

George that is definitely one of the best brass "kettle" points i've seen , you seem to find some great examples my friend . :notworthy: your right i never would of guessed you found that where we were :lol::lol: i say we scour that area around that marsh as we may have a small village near there. great find again .

i'll post my toasty coppers in a bit.

[coinnut]

You are slacking bud, post them coppers:lol: We have got to circle that swamp, but it may just be a random point. But we need the exercise anyways;)

[del]

well let it be known that i find my share of crappy conditioned coppers :lol::rofl:

i found 4 coppers yesterday in an area that i had quickly went through before a few years ago and only picked up a couple of buttons . just lately i've been using a 10x12 sef coil and not only does this coil find small bits of metal but sniffs out them deep coppers so i wanted to hit that area again. the shallowest copper was right up against a tree 7 inches down the others was in between 8 and 10 inches.all these targets "banged" very hard on the dfx all were sounded like coins even the deep 10 inch one which was the smaller and thinner Nova Constellatio. despite they area all in very bad shape i am happy to get a couple of "firsts" like the blunt rayed nova and especially the Virginia penny as i never dreamed a coin from that far would reach up here in Connecticut.

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr228/del1786/2013%20finds/Dec6thfinds1_zps78da6302.jpg (http://s486.photobucket.com/user/del1786/media/2013%20finds/Dec6thfinds1_zps78da6302.jpg.html)

the coppers consist of a 1818 large cent , 1783 blunt ray Nova Constellatio and a 1773 Virgina Half penny and one copper thats completely wiped out as far as detail.

the nova
http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr228/del1786/2013%20finds/1783bluntraynova1_zpsd82e58dd.jpg (http://s486.photobucket.com/user/del1786/media/2013%20finds/1783bluntraynova1_zpsd82e58dd.jpg.html)

and what it looked like new
http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr228/del1786/novaCrosby3-Cfront_zpsb5931bac.jpg (http://s486.photobucket.com/user/del1786/media/novaCrosby3-Cfront_zpsb5931bac.jpg.html)

the Virginia penny
http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr228/del1786/2013%20finds/virginahalfpenny1_zpsbf9f7200.jpg (http://s486.photobucket.com/user/del1786/media/2013%20finds/virginahalfpenny1_zpsbf9f7200.jpg.html)

and what it looked like new

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr228/del1786/1773Virginia2_zpsdabf0148.jpg (http://s486.photobucket.com/user/del1786/media/1773Virginia2_zpsdabf0148.jpg.html)

Dan

[OxShoeDrew]

Wow, I wouldn't think that pointy thing was special :lol: I'm going to look though my garbage....I think I found one of those. :lol:
Nice going you guys, four coppers?! Dan, how long you "borrowing" that coil? :lol:

[del]

Nice going you guys, four coppers?! Dan, how long you "borrowing" that coil? :lol:

Drew if it keeps producing coins like it has the past month Mike may never see it again :rofl:

[The Rebel]

Awesome finds guys!

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

wow! some nice finds all around! 4 copper day and a sweet point! makes our hunt look like we just started hunting cellar holes

[fsa46]

Awesome hunt guys.:thumbsup01:

Congratulations on a sweet point George, we're going to start calling you "The Magician" if you keep pulling the rabbit out of the hat. :lolsign:

You never seem to disappoint Dan, :congrats: on some nice oldies.

I have the 10 x 12 SEF on my GT and can't say enough good things about it. I also have the 8" and 10" Tornado coils and just bought the 13" Ultimate to try. Very good coil, but sold it because I could see using the 10 x 12 more . I'm thinking of getting a 10 x 12 SEF for my MXT Pro or the NEW 10x5 SEF WSS Wide Scan.

[coop]

well let it be known that i find my share of crappy conditioned coppers :lol::rofl:

i found 4 coppers yesterday in an area that i had quickly went through before a few years ago and only picked up a couple of buttons . just lately i've been using a 10x12 sef coil and not only does this coil find small bits of metal but sniffs out them deep coppers so i wanted to hit that area again. the shallowest copper was right up against a tree 7 inches down the others was in between 8 and 10 inches.all these targets "banged" very hard on the dfx all were sounded like coins even the deep 10 inch one which was the smaller and thinner Nova Constellatio. despite they area all in very bad shape i am happy to get a couple of "firsts" like the blunt rayed nova and especially the Virginia penny as i never dreamed a coin from that far would reach up here in Connecticut.

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr228/del1786/2013%20finds/Dec6thfinds1_zps78da6302.jpg (http://s486.photobucket.com/user/del1786/media/2013%20finds/Dec6thfinds1_zps78da6302.jpg.html)

the coppers consist of a 1818 large cent , 1783 blunt ray Nova Constellatio and a 1773 Virgina Half penny and one copper thats completely wiped out as far as detail.

the nova
http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr228/del1786/2013%20finds/1783bluntraynova1_zpsd82e58dd.jpg (http://s486.photobucket.com/user/del1786/media/2013%20finds/1783bluntraynova1_zpsd82e58dd.jpg.html)

and what it looked like new
http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr228/del1786/novaCrosby3-Cfront_zpsb5931bac.jpg (http://s486.photobucket.com/user/del1786/media/novaCrosby3-Cfront_zpsb5931bac.jpg.html)

the Virginia penny
http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr228/del1786/2013%20finds/virginahalfpenny1_zpsbf9f7200.jpg (http://s486.photobucket.com/user/del1786/media/2013%20finds/virginahalfpenny1_zpsbf9f7200.jpg.html)

and what it looked like new

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr228/del1786/1773Virginia2_zpsdabf0148.jpg (http://s486.photobucket.com/user/del1786/media/1773Virginia2_zpsdabf0148.jpg.html)

Dan Nice!!!! Ive never dug a Virginia copper. HH coop

[Lodge Scent]

A Virginia Halfpenny AND a Nova Constelatio in the same hunt :shocked04::congrats:.

I think I know what my DFX wants from Santa :thumbsup01:

[coinnut]

Well it was time to clean that point. I waited until I could get some advice on it and combine it with my methods of cleaning copper and brass. I already knew not to hydrogen peroxide it, steel wool it, electrolysis it, put it inside a potato :lol:, etc. I have seen some of the other points found and they lose a lot of that smooth look when they are cleaned. After 350+ years in the ground, the environmental damage is going to be there. I think it turned out well considering. So here is what I did. Nothing special, but I did pay close attention to the fact that there may be more than just dirt attached to the point. One of the other points found had some resin or other material attached to it. This one did not appear to have anything on it but a uniform black dirt. Very hard to get off. So it took a lot of brushing , a very little use of a toothpick, and a double coating and buffing of Renaissance Wax, a microcrystalline museum wax.

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[del]

looks great George and not like you "dragged" it behind the truck ;)

[Bell-Two]

Just awesome finds. Are the Copper Points native made or were they a trade item?

[coinnut]

Are the Copper Points native made or were they a trade item?

Both, kinda. :lol: Around here they were made from brass kettles that were sold to the natives by the Dutch. The natives then broke them apart and fashioned them into points. Of course the Dutch sold them the tools to cut and drill them also. In other parts of the country they may have been fashioned for them.