1916 SLQ update

[lee]

just an update , i took my SLQ along to a coin dealer and he has confirmed it to be indeed a type 1 1916 SLQ !!!!!.
he also cant find the date on it but picked out a few tell tail signs, the main one being the single hair strand at the back of her head , on the 17 there was a distinctive two strands.
also the shield size appears larger on the 16 than the 17.
he says its in about good 4 what ever that means ?? and offered me $2300 realy no idear if thats a good price or not so im gona have a good look around before deciding what im gona do.

[del]

very sweet info Lee , that coin dealer left a little on the bone for him as my old 2009 red book lists that coin in g-4 condition for $3,250 so i suspect he can do better on that Lee. anyone have a 2012 edition of the redbook to let Lee know what they are going for now??

Dan

[Merc]

Fantastic news Lee glad to hear :congrats:

[aloldstuff]

Lee, I was gonna wait to respond to this for after someone with the 2012 Red book posted but I couldn't wait. Huge :congrats: on this find, Don't let it go for cheap if you are going to sell. That coin would be the banner coin in many a collection. |:cheering:

[Tony Two-Cent]

I have the 2013 Redbook and it guides for $3250 in G4 condition.

Spectacular find, Lee! WOW!


:perfect10:

[Epi-hunter]

Very nice find Lee :)

PCGS current price guide lists G-4 as $3000 (G-6 is $3500, VG-8 $4850, VG-10 $5350, F-12 $6400)

If it were mine I would get it professionally graded since there is such a large jump between the grades. It doesn't look like it would grade into the VG range to me but it's hard to tell for sure from the photos.

In any event, if you get it slabbed, certified, and graded by PCGS or NGC I believe you will get a better price. One thing you can count on is that if a dealer offered you $2300 then it's worth more than that. :)

Terrific find! :perfect10:

[Epi-hunter]

Here is an ended ebay auction of one (PCGS certified and graded G-4) and what it sold for. To me the obverse of yours looks a little nicer than this, but again, it's really hard to tell from the photos.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=it em43b1f3ba52&item=290748349010&nma=true&pt=Coins_U S_Individual&rt=nc&si=v3bYWru1C9PmNa%252FnoG%252Bq Eldi3R4%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

Here is another ended auction, also certified but graded VG-8. Look at the price difference. I would not assume it grades as G-4 just because he said it did :) I hope you get it graded!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=it em4ab8fbec21&item=320931097633&nma=true&pt=Coins_U S_Individual&rt=nc&si=v3bYWru1C9PmNa%252FnoG%252Bq Eldi3R4%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

[Bell-Two]

Of course without seeing the coin in person one cannot be sure but I would say it is the 1917 not the 1916. First the secondary curl on the hair flip is never prominent and is very difficult to judge on a worn coin, next look at the drapery between the leg On the 1916 it is much less defined the 1917 is more sharply defined, the detail that is generally the easiest to tell is the dots on the shield on the 1917 they are very strong and defined on the 1916 very soft. Take it to another dealer for confirmation I think it is the 1917 you have.

[Tony Two-Cent]

Well dang. I hate to be a wet blanket, but after doing a little more research I think Bell-Two may be correct.

Lee's coin:
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb174/dubbl-t/Metal%20Detecting/1916-SLQ.jpg

Here's a helpful image that shows the differences between a 1916 and a 1917:
http://www.cointalk.com/attachments/105732d1293782795-77986d1275864966t-1916_exp-horz.jpg

I hope I'm wrong, but to me Lee's coin looks like 1917.

[Epi-hunter]

I was doing the same research lol

In all honesty, I don't think the photos that lee has posted are anywhere near detailed enough to make the call. I would get it graded and certified to be sure. :yes:

[buck57]

:congrats: Great job there lee. thumbsup01
Hey Tony, do you have more helpful images of them standing liberties? Or where can I find them on line? I wouldn't mind checking out what year I have.

[Tony Two-Cent]

:congrats: Great job there lee. thumbsup01
Hey Tony, do you have more helpful images of them standing liberties? Or where can I find them on line? I wouldn't mind checking out what year I have.


I didn't create that comparison image, I just found it online by doing a Google search. I wish I had a 1916 SLQ of my own to photograph!

[Bell-Two]

Thanks Tony I was getting together the same pictures to illustrate what I was saying. I knew about this because I too found a 1917 Type 1 and my research led me to this knowledge. There was a nice article in the June 2011 Ohio Metal Detecting Magazine all about this distinction. The magazine might still be available in a back issue, if anyone is interested they can pm and I will give them contact info. Here is mine that I found in 2011

[buck57]

I didn't create that comparison image, I just found it online by doing a Google search. I wish I had a 1916 SLQ of my own to photograph!


Thanks Tony. We'll try googling them liberty's.

[lee]

wow i can see what you mean , now the question is do i go back and just take the 2300 and plead ignorance or do i get it graded to be sure or at least take it to another dealer for conformation :huh:thinkingabout:? why cant life ever be simple ?? :hysterical:

[Bell-Two]

Well I can not tell you what to do but I could not go back with the knowledge and say I will accept your offer. However, if you went back to him and state that if he believes it is the 1916 and you will not make any claim that it is, and if he is willing to go on his expertise and take the risk then it is up to him. I would think though if originally you had accepted his offer it would be conditional on verification even if he did not state that. Just my feelings I have no knowledge of course of what he would or would not do.